Question:
I had a condo in San Diego California and used it as my primary residence for about 1 year before I ran into financial difficulty. I paid $480K for the condo. Because it was a “No money down, interest only” loan, I had to get a first mortgage of $380K and a second line of credit “Heloc” for $100K. Both loans were taken out at origination of the loan. I have foreclosed on the property after trying to Short sale and “Deed in Lieu of foreclosure” but both efforts failed. I have recently found out that this is a recourse loan (I never even knew what that was) and I still keep getting the bills for the “Helloc” as they say it was a line of credit and I have to pay it. It is my understanding that because both loans were taken out on origination, that they should both fall under the foreclosure???? Also, what can I expect on the Tax side of this as the foreclosure sold for $380K which leaves me upside down by $110K ($490K – $380K) Any and all help much appreciated.
Answer:
You personally guaranteed the loans so you are expected to pay them back.
The foreclosure was probably done by the first lien holder – the bank – which means they broke even except for foreclosure and sale costs, you can expect that is about 10% of the sale price (realtor fees, closing costs, etc). You will probably be forgiven $38,000 of the first mortgage. That will be attributed to you as income and you will be obligated to pay taxes on it.
The Second, or HELOC is still outstanding. At this point the lender has not written it off as bad debt, they are still trying to collect it. Once they write it off, you will be obligated to pay taxes in that as if it was income.
If you pay off the Heloc then you can deduct any interest payments on your tax return.
I realize that you, like so many others, did not understand that when you were buying your house, you asked these two banks to trust you and put their money at risk, which they did. All they expected and still expect is that you will make it right, that you also put something at risk.
If you had known that you could be expected to pay tens of thousands of dollars if the deal fails, you might have thought twice about selecting a house that you could not actually pay for, and starting in a negative equity position.
Now that you know that the goal of home ownership is not to live in a house you can’t afford, but to build equity in a house that you can keep, you will handle the next purchase differently.
Follow-up Question:
I understand all you said. This will ultimately mean that I will pay tax on about $140K which will be about $42K (1st and 2nd loan combined) that I will owe the IRS. Correct?
But the problem is compounded by the fact that I lost my job and have not been able to find another for the last 6 months. How will I be able to pay this amount? Would the IRS agree to $10K (This is all I have in savings)? I have no assets. I have nothing left. What am I to do? I feel so hopeless. If you were in this same situation what would you do …..step for step.
Not sure if I said but both my first and second mortgage loans were from the same bank at origination (Countrywide)
Follow-up Answer:
All said and done it could be more than $140k, adding collection costs, etc. It could be less, the bailout that congress passed might force the lenders to discount their loans by 15%.
As to what the IRS might take, you will have to Negotiate it, they might take less, they WILL accept payment plans, but you need to stick with them.
If you have nothing to lose, then the worst case is you will owe the money.
I don’t want to sound harsh, but there is nothing keeping you from getting a job. Don’t believe that jobs aren’t available, they are. It is just that the people that won’t actually work won’t keep their job now.